From Comment No. 9 posted by 'Carol' -
September 15, 2009 to The Cedar Lounge Revolution
http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/the-luckiest-man-in-the-green-party/
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Firstly the issues about the cost of this project must be raised
again and again. You are correct that Dublin CC have been landed with a
huge bill to manage the project so far, however from my reading of the
information to date it is now well over €30 million and not the (€19 million) figure
quoted here. The omissions include the various additional costs within
Dublin CC and Bord An Pleanala as well as Government and the various
other Consultants employed by the Ministry – and it wont stop there!
The second part of the costs issue relates to the fact that the
advised Tender Cost by Dong is farcical and wholly inaccurate and in
the light of forthcoming and approved Environmental Legislation to be
enacted before 2019 will be exceeded by a huge amount. These include
the adoption of stringent particulate emission control as well as
preventing the emission of the Persistent Organic Pollutants (POPS)
which is covered under Irish and European Union Legislation following
UN edicts included in the Stockholm Convention. In addition though,
even more interesting, is the fact that by 2019 all incineration plants
will be required to install equipment to capture all the carbon dioxide
they emit.
These issues are already defined and known about and without
a doubt the additional costs of around €180 million will have to be
borne by the Irish Tax Payers as they would be considered ”additional”
to the base and the premise by which the existing offer in response to
the call for tenders was invited. It is worthy to note that under EU
Procurement Directives this change to a proposal is declared to be
significant enough and of such a high value as to declare the existing
offer for incineration to be invalid. Accordingly the Minister has a
right on behalf of the Government to declare [the existing & secret contract] should be thrown out.
My comment in response is that if you follow the links in the
”Google web” search engine there is a ready answer here based upon full
recycling of the raw waste and the subsequent treatment of the residual
waste which is called here ”biodegradable municipal waste (BMW)” to
make the biofuel ethanol for transport uses. In these items a statement
about the best way forward as an alternative was raised in discussions
about 2 or 3 years ago with the Government in Dublin which stated that:
(i) by fully recycling materials from the waste and recovering them and the inert materials – removing them from the waste,
(ii) there were no environmental down sides compared to incineration
(no toxic emissions) because the process was totally enclosed and wet,
(iii) that all the residues were all able to be reused.
I understand that in discussions about this proposition a budget was
given at less than €100 million for the equivalent project for Dublin’s
Ringsend project and that it did not need a gate fee (treatment fee)
any higher than €30-00 per tonne.
I understand and hear that a number of projects using the same
system have been given approval to start in Holland, Yorkshire (UK),
Kentucky, Hawaii, and Viet Nam with others to be announced by November
2009.
So as these projects are now going ahead – even in England – and
they are all firmly costed in line with this proposal which was stated
for Dublin and to the Ministers then there cannot be any doubt that the
Government here must change its direction here, And the Minister John
Gormley TD and his compatriot Eamon Ryan TD must act now and quickly to
stop this nonsense in Ringsend.
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